Srila Giri Maharaja ”Rejecting Demands To End Discussion”

Date: May 8, 2023
Subject: Re: Bhavananda’s testimony presented as equal to that of Srila Prabhupada.

My dandavats to you Maharaja.

You wrote:

Please forgive me for being unwilling to argue about the matter.

That’s one way of dodging these questions I presented to you in my previous email challenging your use of citations from Bhavananda in your book (Prabhupada’s Kirtana Standards).

How do you suppose Bhavananda, promoted as a guru within ISKCON and widely accepted as such, persuaded others to have homosex with him?

I’ll tell you what I suppose. You tell me why I’m wrong. I suppose he presented himself as acharyam mam vijaniyan and/or saksad hari, in other words non-different from Krishna. Therefore, pleasing him by satisfying his perverse sexual appetite would please Krishna, Prabhupada, etc. That’s what I suppose. Am I wrong? If so, please cite the “historical testimony” of sources you consider reliable that refute my supposition.

Please forgive me for being unwilling to argue about the matter.

I’m a sucker for such pleas. Especially when I was just about to throw this blow at you with my next email.

You wrote (May 5, 2023):

I’ve carefully considered your concerns. I’m not going to go back and forth about it.Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja “On Citing Bhavananda (A Letter to Sripada Jayadvaita Maharaja)”

Date: May 4, 2023 (Sri Nrsingha Caturdasi)

Dear Sripada Jayadvaita Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances in remembrance of my Divine Masters.

On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:28 AM, Jayadvaita Swami wrote:

Regarding my citing Bhavananda: Regardless of his history, he heard first-hand instructions from Srila Prabhupada, and I regard his testimony as reliable, despite his later falldowns. My citing him has nothing to do with his status in ISKCON and so on. In the book I cite a number of other devotees who’ve had various problems or who no longer follow their vows. For the same reason: I don’t think their problems knock out the value of their historical testimony.

Suppose I am a reader of your book who knows nothing about Bhavananda and I ask you ”Who is Bhavananda?” What will your answer be?

Today we are celebrating Sri Nrsingha Caturdasi and the life of Sri Prahlada, one of the twelve mahajanas, whose historical testimony I accept as reliable. Perhaps by his grace I feel no need to read or hear the historical testimony of Bhavananda and believe it is a black spot on your book; one you would do well to eliminate.

In a recent letter to a friend I wrote this.… Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja “Correction”

Date: 2/16/23

On January 27, 2023 I posted “Paraṁ vijayate śrī-kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtanam!” which contained the following text from my email to Srimati Govinda Nandini Devi dasi.

“When I first viewed the video you sent me of your street sankirtana (attached to your email of 12/9/22) I didn’t positively recognize you. I just viewed it again and see that you are playing a harmonium, chanting and looking very energetic, happy and still youthful.”

Yesterday (2/15/23) I received an email from Srimati Govinda Nandini Devi in which she corrected my misunderstanding as follows.

“Today I was at Harinama after a long break. I recorded a video for you so that you wouldn’t confuse me with other young energetic mataji. (Smile) Earlier I sent you a video of Camila playing the harmonium. I am also in this video, but in the background. I will attach photos and videos to you. I play the tambourine in Harinama.”

Included with her email was the photo below.

Unless I am again mistaken, she is pictured playing the tambourine.

Therefore, I issue the following correction.

This sentence-

“I just viewed it again and see that you are playing a harmonium, chanting and looking very energetic, happy and still youthful.”… Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja “Paraṁ vijayate śrī-kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtanam!”

Hari Nama on a street in Moscow.

January 27, 2023

Dear Srimati Govinda Nandini Devi,

Please accept my blessings and well wishes in remembrance of my Divine Masters.

I hope I will hear from you soon that your health has recovered.

When I first viewed the video you sent me of your street sankirtana (attached to your email of 12/9/22) I didn’t positively recognize you. I just viewed it again and see that you are playing a harmonium, chanting and looking very energetic, happy and still youthful.

Once I was with Srila Sridhara Maharaja who was speaking with us on his veranda as his kirtana party was returning from morning sankirtana around Navadwipa. As the group came nearer to us and the chanting grew louder his attention was being drawn more and more away from us and towards the sankirtana party. By the time it entered the gate of the Math Srila Sridhara Maharaja was becoming more and more joyful and animated. Finally he broke his talk on the present topic and told us (paraphrasing) ”I cannot dance any more, but in my heart I am dancing.” He was so much pleased to hear the kirtana party.

My feeling was similar while watching and listening to the video of your kirtana group and seeing everyone in a very happy mood.… Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja “No One In This World Is Independently Wealthy”

Date: 1/21/23

Good morning Darren,

I would like to further the thread of our conversation. I hope you will indulge me.

According to ancient Vedic scriptures — such as Bhagavad-gita and Sriman Bhagavatam — the current age we live in is known as Kali-yuga. It is a very inauspicious age characterized as follows:

ŚB 1.1.10

प्रायेणाल्पायुष: सभ्य कलावस्मिन् युगे जना: ।
मन्दा: सुमन्दमतयो मन्दभाग्या ह्युपद्रुता: ॥ १० ॥
prāyeṇālpāyuṣaḥ sabhya
kalāv asmin yuge janāḥ
mandāḥ sumanda-matayo
manda-bhāgyā hy upadrutāḥ

Synonyms

prāyeṇa — almost always; alpa — meager; āyuṣaḥ — duration of life; sabhya — member of a learned society; kalau — in this Age of Kali (quarrel); asmin — herein; yuge — age; janāḥ — the public; mandāḥ — lazy; sumanda-matayaḥ — misguided; manda-bhāgyāḥ — unlucky; hi — and above all; upadrutāḥ — disturbed.

Translation

O learned one, in this iron Age of Kali men almost always have but short lives. They are quarrelsome, lazy,misguided, unlucky and, above all, always disturbed.

Due to these characteristics of the Age of Kali, meditation — in the manner of a yogi sitting still in the forest in a fixed position for hours at a time — is not recommended as a means to God realization.… Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja ”Do You Want To Be A Millionaire?”

Date: 12/9/22

Good morning Darren.

Yesterday you raised an interesting question asking if I thought Kenny wanted to be a millionaire, an ambition of yours.

In reply I told you ”You might be surprised.” But I was actually answering the question a little differently than you might think.

I assumed your ambition to become a millionaire was due to your thinking it would bring you some measure of happiness. This is what everyone wants and is seeking through various means. More precisely, what everyone wants is sat, cit, ananda: eternity, knowledge and bliss. My reply about Kenny, ”You might be surprised.” was not meant to directly address his ambition to become a millionaire but, rather, the reason one wants to become a millionaire. It was meant to mean ”Just as you want eternity, knowledge and joyfulness, so does he.”

Another of your ambitions is to create a ”peace center” and I agree with you it should be done with the intention of encouraging the development of internal peace, not external cessation of conflict, which can never be achieved in this world. But peace is secondary to the most primary innate desire of the jiva (soul). What every jiva is seeking is pleasure.… Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja ”To ‘Dissect Like Frogs’”

Date: 12/21/22

Dear Srimati Govinda Nandini Devi.

Please accept my blessings and well-wishes in remembrance of my Divine Masters.

I received your email dated 12/9/22 and expect to respond further as time allows. I will respond in part herewith.

I told you I try to reply to correspondence in the order I receive it and that’s generally true, but there are exceptions. Our correspondence is one such exception because, while I attempt to ”dissect like frogs” your earlier emails, new points of interest arise which I may feel the need to respond to before returning to earlier ones. I also received an email from someone else (“the real guru parampara”) I thought should be handled immediately and I did so. I have included that response after my signature.

Before going further I will note that in our sampradaya effective persuasion on the acceptance of any point is based on the following criteria.

Prabhupāda: [Hindi] Muhammad, he also did not believe in the Vedic literature. But according to Vedic literature, anyone who does not believe in the Vedic literature, he is nāstika. Just like the Muhammadans, they say, “Anyone who does not believe in Koran, he is kafir.” The Christians say, “Anyone who does not believe in the Bible, they are heathens.”

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Srila Giri Maharaja ”Hope For A Confused Person”

Date: 12/20/22

Dear “the real gaudiya guru parampara”,

For the sake of expediency I will assume you are the one who previously wrote to me using the name ”the real guru parampara” and your current email is in response to my reply to you.

Your reply (below) to my email to you dated 12/11/22 does not answer any of the questions I posed to you regarding your identity.

As I wrote to you previously: “If you want to be taken seriously you must identify yourself.”

You did not do that. It means, as I suspected, you have no guru and cannot identify yourself as belonging to any guru parampara except, possibly, one you imagine for yourself.

It is unfortunate for you that you could not reply to these simple questions I asked in my last email to you.

What is your name?

Where do you live?

Who is your guru (the guru of what you call “the real guru parampara”)?

Who is your guru’s guru?

Fortunately, you have an attraction for our website and continue to study it in your search to find meaning for your life. This is similar in benefit to “regular attendance in classes on the Bhāgavatam”, as found in the verse following below.… Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja “Is ‘the real guru parampara’ Real?”

Date: 12/11/22

To: “the real guru parampara” (the name you used to contact me).

You wrote this to me:

“your govinda maharaj was a dangerous man he would punch and knock down srila sridhar maharaj , that is why some godbrothers tryed to throw govinda from the roof but you dont know all this .

Your statement is what is known in law as conjecture or hearsay. For such a statement to have weight it must come from a recognized authority such as guru, shastra or sadhu. At the very least it should be supported by some material fact or reason. You offer neither.

It’s not reasonable to think Srila Sridhara Maharaja considered Govinda Maharaja someone that abused him and would then select him to serve as his sole successor to fully represent him after his disappearance.

Your next most obvious mistake is one of simple logic. When you write ”you dont know all this” you are presenting a logical fallacy. Because you have no factual basis to know what I know or do not know about the statement you made you cannot know that I ”dont know all this.”

You have failed the test of logic. Let’s see if you are able to succeed on any other front.… Read More...

Srila Giri Maharaja “They Only Sing Bhajans…”

Date: 12/8/22
Subject: “They only sing bhajans . . . so I go to ISKCON for kirtans”

Dear Srimati Govinda Nandini Devi,Please accept my blessings and well-wishes in remembrance of my Divine Masters.In your letter to me dated 7/13/22 you wrote:

Lately, I have been feeling strong need to chant the Holy Name. In our Temple they only sing bhajans, they don’t sing Hare Krishna… so I go to Iskcon for kirtans. Unfortunately, sahajiya is flourishing there. But chanting under the protection and presence of Prabhupada is spiritual association. I was introduced to Krishna Consciousness in 1988 through Iskcon. Prabhupada was and is the Guru for me. So Iskcon is also my family. This is my situation now. My life belongs to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga and I have complete trust in Them. Whatever happens, They will guide me to the right path. For my part, I only accept what is favorable for my spiritual life and reject what is unfavorable.

I have some questions and comments about some of the items you mentioned.

In our Temple they only sing bhajans, they don’t sing Hare Krishna… so I go to Iskcon for kirtans.

When you say ”our Temple”, to what are you referring?… Read More...